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#64 Oct 26, 2011
James,

Thanks again for your advice, willing to help and sharing your meed knowledge in helping kitties.

Hope my neighbor and I will be lucky in trapping the kittens, mom and dad cats.

Thanks again,

Annie
James
#65 Oct 27, 2011
That was supposed to have been "meds" in my original post above...I will post info later tonight about how to get antibiotics without a prescription for cats (and dogs)....gotta head to work right now...will post it later.
Annie
#66 Nov 1, 2011
Today I am very happy.
Both mom and dad cat have been trapped and on their way to Chicago PAW for spay/neuter.
With FeralFixers and PURR Naperville's help, this impossible task really got done.

The mom cat has seen her kittens got trapped by humane trap before.
So FeralFixers suggested using drop trap.
The drop trap was elevated and not set for the first 2 days so they got used to eat under the drop trap. Then we set the trap today and trap them. We do need hold onto the drop trap when they got trapped then transferred them to a carrier with FeralFixers help.

Now kitten traps have been set. Hopefully very soon we can rescue thosekittens.

Just like to share my experience and happiness.
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#67 Nov 1, 2011
James wrote:
KK: You could actually dilute the pill down and mix it with water--I have some goodinstructions on turning a pill into a liquid for cats if you need the info--let me know....Take care of Emma--she sounds like a sweetie!
James, just a quick update on the dosage. It seems to be working just fine. FeralStat had to be given once a week, but I'm 9 days into the OvaBan dosageand so far so good! No signs of "heat." Awesome! I'm so happy about this and just wanted you to know that crushing the 1/4 tablet worked fine in her food without diluting it, so I'll just stick to that.

I did want to ask you if you're aware of kitties sort of drooling sometimes with the OvaBan? I don't know what other word to use - but she's not walking around and I'm having to wipe up after her! I just notice that she's swallowing more than normal and sometimes I'll feel her little mouth wet, or when she's got her head on my arm, I'll feel it that way. I don't think it's a big deal; I was just wondering if you've heard anything about that.

You're helping a lot of us, James. Thank you!:-)

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#68 Nov 1, 2011
Annie wrote:
Today I am very happy.
Both mom and dad cat have been trapped and on their way to Chicago PAW for spay/neuter.
With FeralFixers and PURR Naperville's help, this impossible task really got done.
The mom cat has seen her kittens got trapped by humane trap before.
So FeralFixers suggested using drop trap.
The drop trap was elevated and not set for the first 2 days so they got used to eat under the drop trap. Then we set the trap today and trap them. We do need hold onto the drop trap when they got trapped then transferred them to a carrier with FeralFixers help.
Now kitten traps have been set. Hopefully very soon we can rescue those kittens.
Just like to share my experience and happiness.
Annie, just wanted to chime in and say Congrats! on trapping the cats for spay/neuter. You've done an awesome thing - and please keep us posted on how they do and if you're able to get the kittens! Good Luck to you!

KK
James
#69 Nov 1, 2011
Annie--congratulations on trapping the kitties! I'm so proud for you! Drop traps work great for those kitties that have seen trap door ones before. They are smarter than you think they are and still some people call them dumb animals. Congrats again on your accomplishments! Keep us posted on their surgeries.

KK: Emma is foaming and drooling because the medicine tastes bad. I have given kitties meds before and if it tastes bad to them, they will foam and drool like crazy.

To prevent this, you can dilute the pills into a liquid suspension and then dose her by using an eye dropper & get the dosage far back in her throat to get past her taste buds.

I am concerned about the dosage you listed though--1/4 tablet. If you are using 20 mg tablets, that means you are dosing her 5 mg once a week...this is twice the normal dosage...normal dosage of OvaBan tablets for a colony of 1-4 cats is 2.5 mg once a week--which would be 1/2 of a 5 mg OvaBan tablet. Are you using 20 mg tablets? I've never seen where 5 mg once a week for a single cat would be safe--check your dosages recommended by your vet.

If you are using 20 mg OvaBan tablets, you can take TWO of them, crush them and dissolve them both into 8 ml of distilled water. This gives you a liquid solution of 8 ml of liquid MegAce with 5 mg of megestrol acetate in each ml of the liquid suspension. That is, 40 ml divided by 8 ml = 5 mg per ml. Going back and looking at the dosing chart that Fairchild Foundation listed in the posts above, you can see that for a colony of less than 5 cats, the dose is .5 ml once a week (notice the decimal point)--this equals 2.5 mg of megestrol acetate per dose.

If you make up the liquid suspension like this, it would be easier to dose Emma with a syringe/eyedropper and stop the drooling.

Please double check your dosages.

I'll post more later on antibiotic meds if you all want me to...

Thank you all for all your dedication to feral cats. I hope I have helped some you here...I'll continue to share tips here as we need them.

James
Annie
#70 Nov 2, 2011
Hi,

Even happier today.
My neighbor and I got all 3 kittens trapped around the deck area that we think they hide.
One was trapped yesterday late afternoon.
We did not trap any today around 5 pm which got us very worried because the 2 kittens have no food for 2 days and the weather would become bad starting late evening.
So we put fresh chicken and moved the trap right next to the small hole we think the kittens get out of the deck. Unbelievable, 10 minute later, we got one trapped. Then half hour later, the 3rd one got trapped.
We put all 3 kittens in a big dog cage with chicken and water. They all ate well but still kind of scared so far.
It is so nice to see all the sibling together again inside. We feel so relieved.

The mom and dad cat will come home tomorrow.
We will put the mom cat in a separate dog cage next to the kitten cage for recovery.
We believe the mom cat will feel more relaxed once she sees all her kids are OK.

All the kittens will be taken for adoption some time later.

The dad cat has been taken care by my neighbor's family for 2 years and stayed inside their house during very cold nights. So the family will take him inside when he is back.

One of the best news is that FeralFixers team (they have trapped > 3000 stray cats and do TNR in 4 years), assess that the mom cat can also be tame for adoption. I think the mom cat being around with the dad cat for few months really help the mom cat not to fear of human as before.

I really like to take the mom cat inside my house but one family member is not cooperative.
All I care is for the mom cat to have a better life.
So as long as we can find a home for her, I don't have to keep her inside my house.

Thanks all for willing to read my stories and sharing my happiness.

I know everybody on this website has very good heart.

Annie
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#71 Nov 2, 2011
James wrote:
KK: Emma is foaming and drooling because the medicine tastes bad. I have given kitties meds before and if it tastes bad to them, they will foam and drool like crazy.
To prevent this, you can dilute the pills into a liquid suspension and then dose her by using an eye dropper & get the dosage far back in her throat to get past her taste buds.
I am concerned about the dosage you listed though--1/4 tablet. If you are using 20 mg tablets, that means you are dosing her 5 mg once a week...this is twice the normaldosage...normal dosage of OvaBan tablets for a colony of 1-4 cats is 2.5 mg once a week--which would be 1/2 of a 5 mg OvaBan tablet. Are you using 20 mg tablets? I've never seen where 5 mg once a week for a single cat would be safe--check your dosages recommended by your vet.
James
James, Emma's dose is from the 20-mg tablets, but the 5 mgs or 1/4 tablet is for a span of two weeks! And I actually gave her a little less than that. The vet said to try it and see how she does, and so far so good. This Sunday will be two weeks. So do you think I'm on the mark now? I did dbl-ck everything, and those are the instructions from the vet. So now what do you think? Are we safe?

On the drooling, that does make sense; but it's just so strange that she'll sometimes drool or have a wet mouth days later. I noticed it with the FeralStat too, James. I'll let you know what my vet says when I take her in.

Thanks so much for posting the info on the eye dropper dosage. I'll keep it just in case!

KK

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#72 Nov 3, 2011
KK: You should be fine on that 2 week dosage and if vet told you that, then all is fine--I misunderstood your post & thought you were doing 5 mg once a week...you're good to go! Keep us posted on Emma.

Annie: Congrats on the trapping of all the kitties---your dedication & patience paid off--a job well done!! It does feel good when one can trap all of the kitties of a litter in such a short time span & with winter coming on, it is beneficial for all involved.

You are blessed to have FeralFixers--they sound like a great organization. God bless you for taking on the task of saving those babies & parents...keep us posted on the adoptions.

My personal thanks go out to you for your dedication & perseverance in saving them! Thank you!

James
Annie
#73 Nov 10, 2011
Hi,

Just like to give an update on the mom cat and 3 kittens.
The mom cat lives in one of bathroom now. She is still shy and hides in one isolated corner most of the time. Her facial expression looks much different than we just trapped/spayed her. She meows to me and blinks her eyes. She still ate the food when I was not around.
Once she is more comfortable in the bathroom, I will let her wander on the second floor rooms.

The 3 kittens are also spayed/neutered and received necessary medical treatment.
I just moved them from garage to my master bedroom bathroom, but all are in different cages.
FeralFixers lady told me to let them get used to the room first before taking them out to play. So I plan to take them out to play this weekend.
Once they are more used to home environment and people, they would become ready for adoption.

For the mom cat, I will keep her in my house for some time and eventually will be adopted by one of my colleages who is a very nice and decent person.

Thanks for listening to me.

Annie
James
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#74 Nov 11, 2011
Thanks for the update Annie. Sounds like the kitties are doing fine. You've done it exactly like I have done many times in the past--keep the babies in a kennel cage for a few weeks until they tame down--take them out & play with them periodically. They will come around after 2-3 weeks & tame down. Mama kitty will take more acclimating, but she will "slowly" trust you over time--careful trying to pick her up though. Keep us updated periodically on how they are coming.
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#75 Nov 11, 2011
James wrote:
KK: You should be fine on that 2 week dosage and if vet told you that, then all is fine--I misunderstood your post & thought you were doing 5 mg once a week...you're good to go! Keep us posted on Emma.
James
Thank you for confirming the dosage, James. I will keep you posted on how my little sweetie-pie does.

Wow, Horay! for Annie and what she's accomplished! I love a great story and even better ending!

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#76 Nov 11, 2011
Annie wrote:
Hi,
Just like to give an update on the mom cat and 3 kittens.
Annie
Congratulations, Annie! Sounds like your new house guests are very lucky! It seems like you've got a great plan, and I really hope you can find them awesome homes. After going through all this, it's just got to happen that things will fall into place.:o)

KK
Annie
#77 Nov 14, 2011
James and KK,

Thank you so much for encouraging and advising me.

Like to share one mistake that I made over the weekend. After I enjoyed watching all the kittens playing together in my master bathroom, I decided to let their mom see them hopefully to help relax their mom.

I felt quite emotional while watching them meet and show love to each other when I just put the kittens in the hallway bathroom with their mom.

When I returned back to the hallway bathroom, the mom cat growled and hissed at me. At that moment, I realized that I made a mistake helping them revert back to wild life treating my hallway bathroom as their territory.

It took quite a lot effort to grab all the kittens and put them back to the master bathroom because 2 of them were completely leaned on their mom (my husband was using carboard to divide them).

Glad that both the mom cat and kittens behaved the same way as before their reunion.

One of the kittens who got trapped first is an easy going kitten and pretty much ready for adoption.
The other 2 are still kind of scared when I let them out of the cage.
Will continue working with the kittens an
d the mom cat.

Thanks,

Annie
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#78 Nov 14, 2011
Annie wrote:
James and KK,
Thank you so much for encouraging and advising me.
Like to share one mistake that I made over the weekend.
Hi, Annie!

One thing to remember is that we learn from mistakes. And I wouldn't even look at it as a mistake, really, but just trial and error. You tried and realized that the timing was off and it didn't quite work out like you would have hoped! And I'm sure James would have far better useful advice than I, but don't be discouraged. You just keep up the good work, and I'll bet they all come around just like they need to. How can they not respond to the nurturing, care, and love you're showing them! I think that's in not only our nature, but theirs as well.

One thing my vet does where I live is he'll let people post any adoption pets on a bulletin board in his lobby. You may try that when it's time to try and find them a home, and I see a lot on Craigslist too.

I enjoy all the updates. Obviously, I'm a succer for pets and stories with great endings, so please keep us posted!

KK
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#79 Nov 16, 2011
Im from Ontario Canada and am panicking over here. I had a prescription from a Dr. Heller via Feralstat and I'm almost out. Has anyone heard how Canadians might be able to access a prescription from a U.S. vet over the phone?
Gail from Hilltop Humane
#80 Nov 18, 2011
When someone suggests posting animals for adoption on Craigslist, it makes me nervous. I'm sure all of you are very careful in researching potential adopters for the animals you rescue but I just want to remind everyone not to post "Kittens Free to Good Homes" ads or the like. Always charge at least $25 to make sure the adopters place a value on the animal. Free animals are more likely to be neglected or abandoned because people think "there's more where that came from." Worse still, free kittens are sometimes fed to pet snakes and free dogs used to teach fighting dogs to kill. Your local shelter can give you a questionnaire to use when screening potential adopters. If they rent, check with the landlord if they are allowed to have pets. Talk to their vet is they are already pet owners. Make sure they have the money to properly care for a pet--food, vet bills, etc. AND--most important--make sure all animals are spayed or neutered before they go to a new home. Your local shelter may be able to help with the expense or direct you to a low cost clinic or have the adopter pay for the surgery before you release the animal to them. I know I'm a worry wart but you can't be too careful. And the only way to impact animal homelessness is through spay and neuter. Thanks for helping!
Annie
#81 Nov 18, 2011
KK,
Thanks much for the encouragement and suggestion.

Also like to thank Gail for the warning and headup.

FeralFixers team will help evaluate on when the kittens are ready for adoption then they probably will go through PURRS Naperville for adoption.

After taking care of the kittens for 2.5 weeks now, I do want to make sure the kittens will end up with a nice home/owners.
I like to come up some adoption considerations based on the kittens' temperament and status.
2 out of the 3 kittens are more careful and fearful of people than the other one.
It would be good if both can go to the same home as a company so they can adjust better. They play so happily together. It would be great if all 3 can stay together, but I really can not expect that.

Thanks again,

Annie
clyde
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#82 Nov 18, 2011
James wrote:
Thanks for the update Annie. Sounds like the kitties are doing fine. You've done it exactly like I have done many times in the past--keep the babies in a kennel cage for a few weeks until they tame down--take them out & play with them periodically. They will come around after 2-3 weeks & tame down. Mama kitty will take more acclimating, but she will "slowly" trust you over time--careful trying to pick her up though. Keep us updated periodically on how they are coming.
......JAMES CAN YOU GIVE ME AN E-MAIL ADDRESS TO WHERE YOU ARE GETTING YOUR MEDICATION FROM..IF YOU LIKE YOU CAN E-MAIL ME PERSONALLY AT jaspertowncryer@yahoo.com
James
#83 Nov 19, 2011
Annie, you are doing great!! Keep up the good work and keep us posted on the kitties. I know it would be great if you could keep all 3 together, but I too have been in your situation many times & you just can't always keep the babies together--they will make someone good pets, all thanks to your kindness and diligence in giving them a good home & bettering their lives. Keep on posting updates! Happy Thanksgiving!

Yvette: I wish I could help you in your plight in Canada, but you are going to have to find a vet there that will hear your plight and prescribe you some megestrol acetate in pill form or liquid Megace. I seriously doubt that any vet will now prescribe these over the phone without you being a "customer" of theirs. I suspect this is what may have happened to FeralStat--that is, they got caught up in prescribing too much medicine just over the phone, but again, I don't know this.

Clyde: I wish I could help you. The vet I receive my megestrol acetate from is a LOCAL vet that I have spent 1000's of $$ with over the years for my cat & dog needs. You will need to establish a working "doctor/client" relationship with a local vet in your area like I and KK have done in order to get a scrip for MA. I know of no vet that will sacrifice their vet license for "phone in" prescriptions for megestrol acetate for feral caregivers. Again, I really suspect this is what happened to FeralStat Inc, but I don't know for sure. The FeralStat method of calling in and getting FeralStat reminded me of the "diet doctors" back in the 90's that would prescribe fen-fen on the fly & would have "patients" lined up out the door to be herded in like cattle each month for their prescriptions.

With all the information that I & others have posted here in the last couple of months on alternatives to FeralStat and correct dosage, it is not hard to establish a doctor/client relationship with a good vet of your choice, explain to them your plight as a feral caregiver, educate the vet on the use of megace if necessary and have them prescribe you a bottle of megestrol acetate pills. A bottle of 100 is cheap in comparison to what we have paid for FeralStat in the past..plus a bottle of 100 pills can be broken down and will last a very long time for feral caregivers. See posts above for dosage.

All past and future posters here looking for FeralStat need to realize that the days of "calling up a long distance doctor like Dr. Heller for feralstat/alternative" are over--plain and simple. You MAY can find some overseas company that will do this, but it is best to follow protocol like I and others here have done to obtain a FeralStat alternative.

Also, let's not forget that MA is not a solution to feral overpopulation--it is only temporary to allow feral caregivers to get ahead on their TNR programs.

Happy Thanksgiving to all good people here...as well as Ms. Emma Kitty and Mama Kitty and her 3 babies!

James
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#44 Oct 15, 2011
Don't know what happened on the multiple postings.....
Kathryn
#45 Oct 15, 2011
Thank you, James!

I will definitely be doing some follow up on this and I will let everyone know. I am putting together a package of information for my own vet and hoping to get her on-side so I can obtain the necessary ovaban from her. The above information will help immensely.

Thank you!
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#46 Oct 17, 2011
leslie leavitt wrote:
I have used FeralStat on a feral colony for about 2 and a half years. Have not had one kitten born in that time. The cats appear to be healthy. I will continue to use it despite negative comments. The life of a feral is hard at best. They are already subject to all kinds of illnesses and diseases and while the thought of adding to their troubles with FeralStat is not my intention I will continue to use it. Preventing feral kittens from being born is my goal at this time. I have tried many times to trap these cats but they are very trap wary.
Where do you get it? there used to be a doctor that manufactured it but he died. How much do you use for 1 cat that keeps getting pregnant? Please reply. Thanks.
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#47 Oct 17, 2011
Where do you get it? How much would you use for 1 cat that keeps getting pregnant. Please reply. I have some from a while ago.
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Hi there, James!

I wrote a long note yesterday explaining my recent visit to the vet regarding Emma and the hernia and her heat cycles, but after all that, it didn't post!!!

So I'm making this one shorter just in case it happens again. But I wanted to thank you for the information you found. I know this has been a big help to me and many others re the MA or Ovaban. My vet had heard of it but didn't love the idea for Emma and her "issues." Not long-term anyway. But he did prescribe it for her until I decide what to do about the surgery, which I'll probably do after the holidays as there's so many complications and side effects that can arise from the MA, but especially with her issues!

But I wanted to ask you if you think I should dissolve the crushed tablets in water as it had mentioned on the site you referenced? I have the 20 mg tablets, which I'll have to quarter and use less than a quarter every two weeks to see how that works for her. He said let's start out with less and see if it'll work first. So I'm just so thankful that I learned of this site and came across such helpful and caring people such as yourself. I'm very grateful!

Oh, and for 10 tablets, it was $11; and I know it would have been cheaper had I gone to Target or Wal-mart, but I used Walgreen's on the fly. So that should give me about 10 months worth, I believe. I really wish I had known of this before now as I'm sure a lot of other people feel the same way! I just other vets will be open to the idea for feral cats.

I'd love to hear back from you again on dissolving the tablets and the dosage, if you're around. And if I could reach you, I'd give you a big hug!!! Thanks again, James! Emma thanks you too!

KK
Ken
#49 Oct 21, 2011
kcook924 wrote:
Did the FeralStat work?
I've been using since July 2010 and have had no new kitties. All cats in my colony are healthy and going strong!
Ken
#50 Oct 21, 2011
Here is what I got from an email I sent on 10/20.
It is with regret that I inform you the FeralStat office is closed and we cannot provide your refill at this time. We are devastated by the impact the lack of this product will have on feral colonies like yours and we are exploring all options for making it available again as soon as possible.
Please check back with us in a few weeks for a status update.
Sincerely,
Donna Sicuranza
President
FeralStat, Inc.
I am seriously bummed! FeralStat has kept my colony at the same level for 2 years. I don't know what is going on but I am seriously ticked off.
Ken
#51 Oct 21, 2011
KKDaniels wrote:
Hi there, James!
I wrote a long note yesterday explaining my recent visit to the vet regarding Emma and the hernia and her heat cycles, but after all that, it didn't post!!!
So I'm making this one shorter just in case it happens again. But I wanted to thank you for the information you found. I know this has been a big help to me and many others re the MA or Ovaban. My vet had heard of it but didn't love the idea for Emma and her "issues." Not long-term anyway. But he did prescribe it for her until I decide what to do about the surgery, which I'll probably do after the holidays as there's so many complications and side effects that can arise from the MA, but especially with her issues!
But I wanted to ask you if you think I should dissolve the crushed tablets in water as it had mentioned on the site you referenced? I have the 20 mg tablets, which I'll have to quarter and use less than a quarter every two weeks to see how that works for her. He said let's start out with less and see if it'll work first. So I'm just so thankful that I learned of this site and came across such helpful and caring people such as yourself. I'm very grateful!
Oh, and for 10 tablets, it was $11; and I know it would have been cheaper had I gone to Target or Wal-mart, but I used Walgreen's on the fly. So that should give me about 10 months worth, I believe. I really wish I had known of this before now as I'm sure a lot of other people feel the same way! I just other vets will be open to the idea for feral cats.
I'd love to hear back from you again on dissolving the tablets and the dosage, if you're around. And if I could reach you, I'd give you a big hug!!! Thanks again, James! Emma thanks you too!
KK
What tablets are you purchasing? Did you need a prescription?

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#52 Oct 21, 2011
Does anyone have any feral stat left. If I can get a sample I may know a vet that can fix this for us. Let me know.
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#53 Oct 22, 2011
Ken wrote:
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What tablets are you purchasing? Did you need a prescription?
Ken, read back a few post where James explains the MA or Ovaban. Yes, I went to my vet and he called in an RX for me for my cat. It's so, so much cheaper than FeralStat too. Granted, we have to break it down and measure it ourself, but it's a fix! Ask your vet, and if he can't help, find one who can!!! The tablets are Megestrol Acetate, I believe the same ingredient in FeralStat and Ovaban, and I have the 20 mg. I should be able to break mine down to get 8 weeks of protection out of one tablet (for one cat). Let us know what you find out! Good luck, and thanks for posting about FeralStat news!

KK
James
#54 Oct 24, 2011
KK< I'm glad you found some OvaBan for your predicament and I hope it helps Emma too! As for dissolving OvaBan in water, I would try just crushing the dosage up and mixing in food rather than using water. The water method is actually for LIQUID MegAce in which you dilute it with 5 ml of distilled water. But if you have the OvaBan tablets, just crush the amount needed and place in canned food as outlined on site above.

Below will be the dosages for those of you using OvaBan Tablets at 5 MG PER TABLET. KK, I know you said you got 20 MG tablets from your Vet, so remember that 1/4 of a 20 MG tablet will be equivalent to (1) 5 MG tablet in the chart below.

Do NOT overdose--the chart below is based on 5 MG per tablet of OvaBan--adjust dosages below for your strength of OvaBan. For those of you who keeping asking where to get this, go back and READ ALL POSTS THAT KK & I HAVE HERE--the information is all there.

Here's the dosage for OvaBan TABLETS, 5 MG PER PILL:

If you are using the OvaBan TABLETS at 5 mg per tablet instead of the generic liquid human MegAce, use the chart below for proper dosing of feral cat colonies.Remember, 1 tablet = 1 ml. in this case.

Dosing Chart For Feral Colonies Using 5 Mg Tablets Of OvaBan Crushed & Mixed In Food. 1 Tablet = 1 ML.

Total Number of Cats in the Colony - Dosage per colony / Frequency

< 5 cats .5 ml ONCE a week =½ of a 5 mg OvaBan Tablet Crushed & Mixed In Food

5-7 cats 1.0 ml ONCE a week = 1 OvaBan (5 mg) Tablet Crushed & Mixed In Food

8-11 cats 1.5 ml ONCE a week= 1 ½ OvaBan (5 mg ea.) Tablets Crushed & Mixed In Food

12-15 cats 1.0 ml TWICE A WEEK = 1 OvaBan (5 mg) Tablet Crushed & Mixed In Food

16-19 cats 1.5 ml TWICE A WEEK= 1 ½ OvaBan (5 mg ea.) Tablets Crushed & Mixed In Food

20-23 cats 1.6 ml TWICE A WEEK = 1& 2/3 OvaBan (5 mg ea.) Tablets Crushed & Mixed In Food

24-27 cats 2.0 ml TWICE A WEEK=2 OvaBan (5 mg ea.) Tablets Crushed & Mixed In Food

28-31 cats 2.2 ml TWICE A WEEK=2 ¼ OvaBan (5 mg ea.) Tablets Crushed & Mixed In Food

32-35 cats 2.5 ml TWICE A WEEK= 2 ½ OvaBan (5 mg ea.) Tablets Crushed & Mixed In Food

1) The crushed OvaBan MUST be mixed in CANNED cat food and served on multiple plates or dishes (NO PAPER). Use one 5.5 oz can of cat food for every 3 cats in your colony. It is very important to spread it out on as many plates as possible so the entire colony is being medicated as evenly as possible.

2) Divide the appropriate dose of medication for your colony evenly among the plates of food and mix it thoroughly into each plate of food.

3) DO NOT DISPENSE IN MILK OR MILK PRODUCTS!

4) DO NOT SKIP OR MISS A DOSE! If you were unable to dose the cats on your scheduled day, do so on the very next day and resume your schedule the following week. For colonies that require a frequency of 2 times per week, the dosages MUST be spaced out.

WARNING! If you use more than the dosages listed in the charts, the cats can develop breast tumors. Many feral care givers tend to overdose.
IF YOU FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS & USE THE DOSAGES IN THE CHARTS BASED ON YOUR COLONY SIZE, ALL WILL BE FINE! Contrary to popular belief and opinion on the Internet, megestrol acetate has been FDA approved for use in cats. Remember, the use of contraceptives in feral colonies is is NOT a permanent solution to the growing animal problem. Using OvaBan, MegAce or FeralStat will allow the feral colony care givers to gain an edge on the reproductive cycles as they TNR the colony. Continue to TNR the colony until all cats have been spayed and neutered.
Carol
#55 Oct 24, 2011
James - this information is great! Thank you so much! Do you know of any vets who are comfortable prescribing through a phone interview process? I am unable to locate any here in the Dallas area at this time and I'm eeking out my last dose of FeralStat this weekend. I only have a small colony (we've gone from 12 to 6 over two years thanks to FeralStat and then natural lifespan), but 4 of my 6 are female!
Again,THANKS!
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#56 Oct 24, 2011
James wrote:
KK< I'm glad you found some OvaBan for your predicament and I hope it helps Emma too! As for dissolving OvaBan in water, I would try just crushing the dosage up and mixing in food rather than using water. The water method is actually for LIQUID MegAce in which you dilute it with 5 ml of distilled water. But if you have the OvaBan tablets, just crush the amount needed and place in canned food as outlined on site above.
James, thanks for chiming in on the dosage and clearing that up for me. I thought that might be the case, but I wanted to be sure. This is really going to help Emma and me in our pinch right now, so thanks again!!! Maybe I'll let you know how she does with her surgery after the holidays!

I hope others who are keeping up with this thread can find OvaBan in their area for the ferals they're trying to help.

KK
Annie
#57 Oct 24, 2011
Hi,
While I am following up this thread to get Ovaban for a female stray cat which just had her second litter this year on 9/1/11 and now she seems pregnant again (her belley looks bigger than after her delivery on 9/1).
Can Ovaban still be given to her if she does get pregnant again?
Please help.
thanks,
Annie
James
#58 Oct 24, 2011
Carol: I don't know of any vets in & near Dallas that will do that over the phone. It probably is going to take an actual trip to the vet to TALK to a vet in person & explain situation--many vets do not know about FeralStat & Meg acetate for controlling estrus in cats. Educate them a little--point them to the Fairchild Foundation link above--and I'm sure they will write you a scrip for OvaBan--you'll have better luck with paying the office visit fee or better luck with small suburb vets near Dallas rather than big city ones--just a thought. If you have family in small towns, have them check with their vets and explain situation. If you go in person it may not hurt to wear a Texas A&M University shirt as many vets in TX graduate from there.:)

Keep digging and do a little social engineering and you'll find a vet who will prescribe OvaBan or MegAce. A 240ml bottle of MegAce is running about $30.00 at my pharmacy now--pretty cheap once you dilute it down and use as directed--MUCH cheaper than FeralStat--it would be worth your while to make an appointment with a vet, pay the consulting/office fee if any, and get a scrip for MegAce or OvBan--will save you money in long run over price of FeralStat. Check with rescue group owners and see if they have experience in MA/OvaBan.

KK: You could actually dilute the pill down and mix it with water--I have some good instructions on turning a pill into a liquid for cats if you need the info--let me know....Take care of Emma--she sounds like a sweetie!

Annie: FeralStat's website originally said it was OK to dose in pregnant cats..I'd get some OvaBan or MegAce generic--better yet, try to trap her & get her fixed--much cheaper in long run than FeralStat or dosing to control estrus. Remember, use of these drugs is TEMPORARY and should not replace spay & neuter.

GINGER: I do actually have some FeralStat left that I am saving for future analysis if need be, but I am certain that this is no longer necessary due to the information posted about OvaBan and MegAce from Fairchild Foundation.

I actually think that FeralStat was just a minuscule dose of megestrol acetate mixed with powdered lactose for taste--there can't be much more than that in it. If you know of someone professional that would like to analyze it, let me know.

There are many ways cat owners can save money on vet bills in this recessionary time...we all have the whole world at our fingertips with our PCs and Google...

If anybody else has questions regarding cat health, post here--maybe we can all help each other out.

James
Annie
#59 Oct 24, 2011
James,

Thanks so much for responding and advice.

Next week my neighbor and I will try to trap the kittens that are about 7 weeks old now, but we are not sure how many kittens survive and where she hides them since she has moved them several times.

It would be very hard to trap the mom cat, but we will try if we can trap her kittens first.

Assuming she is about 3 or 4 week pregnancy again, if we feed her Ovaban, what would happen to her pregnancy?
Will her pregnancy continue or terminate by discharge?

From some website, it mentions small litter or dead puppies if pregnant cat receives Ovaban.

Do you recall any information from old FeralStat website on this?

I am very desperate since I worry so much that the female cat is not able to survive with the pregnancy or deliver kittens in cold December Chicago weather and the kittens may not be able to survive in cold outside either.

Hope to hear from you again.

Thanks so much,

Annie
James
#60 Oct 25, 2011
Annie, FeralStat or OvaBan will NOT terminate the pregnancy if consumed by a pregnant kitty. If you use the "WayBack Machine" at:
http://www.archive.org/web/web.php

Go there and type in 
feralstat.com and click "Take Me Back" and you can see archived copies of the now defunct feralstat.com web site--click on FAQs and you will they address the issue of FeralStat eaten by pregnant kitties.

I have never seen a website speak of dead puppies--a LOT of the "chat room" negativity towards FeralStat and megestrol acetate use came from the fact that users of these products have OVERDOSED and NOT followed precise instructions as far as dosage is concerned. FeralStat will cause tumors IF OVERDOSED. Dedicated users of FeralStat & MA/OvaBan report ZERO problems as long as directions are followed for proper dosages...users here report zero problems as well.

Yes, Chicago winters will be tough on a feral mother--maybe you can get her trapped quickly and abort the litter via spay. Good luck!

James
Annie
#61 Oct 25, 2011
James,

Thanks so much for digging out the defunct 
feralstat.com FAQ which has the answer to my question.

My neighbor and I will try to trap the kittens next week. I think the worse case, we hope we can bring the feral mother inside for delivering the new litter - we got to try even we know it would not be easy to accomplish.

The following website states that Ovaban use in last half of pregnancy dog may result in small litters and dead puppies:

http://www.bobmckee.com/Client%20Info/Reprodu...

James, really appreciate your help.

I am very glad to be involved with this discussion group with people who are so willing to help the homeless cats/kittens.

Annie
serrita
#62 Oct 26, 2011
I used feralstat for 4 years and it has been very successful for me. I am getting really nervous about not having it anymore. I, too, am getting no information on what is going on with the feralstat. I am writing Dr. Heller a letter and hope that I get a response from him. I looked up the Fairchild website and it looks like they do not send ovaban to addresses outside of PA. I am very pleased with this lead and will pursue it.
James
#63 Oct 26, 2011
Annie, I admire you & friend for trying to help the feral mother cat--it will be tough acclimating her to an indoor environment to have her litter. She MAY not be pregnant yet since it hasn't been too long since last litter. For your sake I hope she's not & maybe you can trap her as well. It's possible she may be just gaining weight after having last litter...think positive.

Good luck with the TNR of the kittens.
I am doctoring some kitties now with Ivomec to control ear mites & other problems.

Contrary to my vet's belief, I have now tamed my ferals to point that I can catch themj and administer meeds to them.

And speaking of meeds for cats, I'm sure you all know about how to get antibiotics for your cats & dogs without a prescription--use aquatic fish meds--they're same as prescription meds but no scrip needed...I can elaborate more if you all need more information on antibiotics without a prescription...I'm glad to help people with info that are helping kitties....

James
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Cres - Minnesota
#21 Sep 14, 2011
I have used FeralSTAT for two years and our ferals are healthy. No new kittenseither. I, too, tried to re-order as I used up my last packet last week. The webpage for FeralSTAT is now no longer available. I googled Dr. Caltabiano, who is the vet who has been working with this and mobile TNR. It appears he passed away from cancer Nov.6, 2009, right after I spoke with him in September. I had no idea. He had received a $500,000 bequest from Vernon A. Tait and started up FeralSTAT, and became president of TAIT's Every Animal Matters. (TEAM). Prior to this, his All-Animal Adoption non-profit foundation was bankrupt. So it makes me wonder if, after his death, the estate finally got tied up in legal matters, or if the funding has finally been depleted. Either way, I'm panicking as you all are and am now looking to Animal Ark to see if they have expanded their TNR program to our nothern area. I hate to see our population expand after finally getting it under control. While I don't have 60 cats, I've seen 19 litters from one kitty in the past 10 years. She is now fixed through TNR and really healthy and happy as is her daughter. And the other cats I haven't TRN'd are really healthy being on FeralStat. I hope we'll be able to come up with another solution. I imagine that with this economy, more cats will be abandoned and become feral. Good luck to you all. There has to be a special place in heaven for those who have a heart for homeless (and wild) kitties. Take care.
Teresa
#22 Sep 15, 2011
How much megestrol acetate would you mix into the food. I think I can find this. And do you do it 12 months a year...some of the posts indicated they used is at certain times of year?
Mary from Texas
#23 Sep 17, 2011
Kathryn wrote:
megestrol acetate - that is the name of the product in feralstat.
I too have been giving my feral colony feralstat for over a year and now can't get it. Not only that can't find out why. I personally feel $$$$ and cetain organization(s) may be blocking the continued sale of this product that does so much for these poor homeless not wanted animals. I just want to find out who or what agency is blocking this product and why. I will continue to search this out but I feel if all of us who are interested in this product and feel betrayed because of some personal greed of a particular organization or individual should band together and work in force rather than individually we could possibly find a positive solution to our problem. After all we are just trying to be kind and caring.
Eleanor
#24 Sep 18, 2011
I too have tried calling for feralstat, and have used it successfully for over 2 years - if anyone knows how to find it again, please let me know. I am going to try to see if a local vet will prescribe something. IT does sound as though the man who invented the feralstat drug has died and there is some conflict within the estate.
Cres - Minnesota
Saint Paul, MN
#26 Sep 27, 2011
Regarding the amount of megestrol acetate:
My packaging says for a colony of 7 cats 3.5 GM per packet...also, check on the outside of your large silver packet it was shipped in. Just NOW noticed a number to maybe call for refill.
Cres - Minnesota
Saint Paul, MN
#27 Sep 27, 2011
Well, that didn't work (calling the number) They can't do anything because they work directly with FeralStat. I asked what happened with FS, and they said they have to get some things straightened out. I asked them if they'd like a couple of kitties in the spring...LOL.
James
United States
#28 Sep 27, 2011
I looked at my packet of FeralStat--it says 7 GM per packet for a colony of 14 cats, so now we see how they are breaking it down "per # of cats". Also, looked on my prescription label it says "1 mcg/mg".

I am ASSUMING that this is "1 microgram (mcg) per milligram (mg) of the megestrol acetate, since there is a very MINISCULE amount of megestrol acetate per packet--most of the 7 gm packe is the powdered lactose/milk additive that the vet added for "good tasting" purposes only to help the cats want to eat it.

If you email info@feralstat.com you get an email back saying to check back in a few weeks.. I know this has happened before--that is, the vet would not take orders for a while...not sure why this happens, but I have NEVER seen the
feralstat.com web site down like it is now.

If you want to see the "old" Feralstat web site, use the "Wayback Machine"--that is go to:
http://www.archive.org/web/web.php

Then type in 
www.feralstat.com and click "take me back" you will see archived copies of the site to see how the original site talked about small amounts of megestrol acetate in each dosage, etc.

If you email TEAM (Tait's Every Animal Matters) who actually has the website registered to them, they say they have NOTHING to do with FeralStat site and they direct you to info@feralstat.com
Strange indeed! Someone is lying and I don't think it is the "WHO IS" internetlookup site!

I did google and find out Dr. John Caltabiano's parter who helped "co-invent" FeralStat with him was named Donna J. Sicuranza of Westbury, CT. She was also on board of TEAM as well. Caltabiano passed away in 2009 from cancer. Donna Sicuranza also had a company called "The Dohnna, LLC"--googling that will show some info on her as well--not sure what "The Dohnna, LLC" is.

The doctor that filled my last prescription of FeralStat was named Arthur B. Heller on the label.

If FeralStat is out of business, I am sure we all can find a vet that will prescribe OvaBan for us to control ferals. I found a very interesting article put out by professional show cat fancy breeders in which they have been using OvaBan to control heats for YEARS here in USA--long before FeralStat came on market. The article lists the dosage cat breeders give to their prized cats to control heats for 18 months or more--I seriously doubt these breeders would be putting their prize animals at risk if megestrol acetate was so "bad" for them like the naysayers of FeralStat say.

Anyway, as feral cat caretakers, I'm sure we all can find a replacement for FeralStat, possibly cheaper too once some vets are "educated" about OvaBan--seems like many of today's vets don't know what OvaBan is. "MegAce" is the human form of megestrol acetate--usually given to cancer patients in 40 mg tablets.

Anyway, the answer is out there if we all keep digging...and hopefully, maybe FeralStat site will come back--just wish we could find SOMEONE to talk to at FeralStat to see what's going on--we are all in limbo now!

Keep digging...

James
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#29 Sep 28, 2011
I was using feralstat for about a year. No new kittens & the cats looked very healthy. Tried calling for a refill. A recording said to try back in a few weeks. Have been trying to find out what is going on. No sucess. I took the package that feralstat came in to my veterinarian. They did some checking & called thatpharmacy but they would not give my veterinarian the other ingredients. So was out of luck there. I sent Feralstat, inc. a letter. Told them it worked great & that other people were trying to get more too. We live in a rural area so I am going to send letters to other veterinarians in bigger cities to see if they can come up with anything. Probably will take me a little time, but if I find out anything I will let people know.
KK Mobile Al
#30 Sep 28, 2011
I just tried calling FeralStat today only to find nobody answering as well. I spoke with Dr. Heller eight months ago, when I ordered my first RX, and I tried leaving him a message but haven't heard anything yet. My situation is a bit different than most in that I only have one kitty on FS. I found her on the side of the road at eight weeks old, so I brought her home; then I noticed her breathing was compromised, so I took her to the vet the next morning only to find out that she has a diaphragmatic hernia, hence created the issue of not being able to have her spayed as the surgery is too risky and I may lose her. So that was a year ago. I took her to the vet just last week for another x-ray, and he feels we can wait and that she may not ever get any worse; that if we do the surgery, we may lose her - but we just don't know either way. So what to do!!! It's driving me nutso, and she's my little heart. Now I may have to rethink everything. I can't bear to see her going in and out of heat every couple weeks like I did before. It's not healthy for her at all! She's strictly an inside kitty, and when she was in heat before, before I found out about FS, it was often, just so sad. Male cats hanging around the door and her chasing us around the house! Poor little thing. So this is my dilemma. The couple vets I've been to here where I live, they have never heard of FS and offered no other ideas or meds similar to FS. If anyone hears anything at all, please let us know; and I'll post anything I hear, if I hear from Dr. Heller.
I have read all your stories about what you do and what you go through for the feral colonies. Kudos to everyone of you; you are amazing! If the kitties could thank you, I'm sure they would! It takes special people to do what you do!
James
United States
#31 Sep 28, 2011
To "KK-Mobile, AL"--a good vet should be able to make your kitty go out of heat by using the reliable "Q-Tip" or thermometer method. If your vet is a young one, he may not know about this. Professional cat breeders do this all the time to bring their cats out of heat. The method is best left up to the experienced as you can hurt the kitty if you go too deep. Check with your vet or try another. Also, maybe get a second opinion on having your cat spayed with the hernia problem.
The good thing is that the days are getting shorter--the less daylight, the less a cat will go into heat.

Also, it is NOT good for a kitty to constantly be in and out of heat and NOT be bred. You are taking a risk either way you go by letting the kitty go in and out of heat and not bred or by not choosing the spay. I myself would get a 2nd opinion on the spay.

As for vets not knowing about FeralStat--that is understandable, BUT they should know about megestrol acetate as well as "OvaBan"--especially if they are "old school vets".

Again, the main ingredient in FeralStat is just megestrol acetate. The other ingredient was powdered milk/lactose for taste purposes only.

Professional cat breeders have been using megestrol acetate for years to control heats. Check your yellow pages for cat fancy breeders and see if they have insight on a vet that can prescribe megestrol acetate in your area. Be sure and check out other online forums devoted to show cats and cat fancy sites. These breeders are indeed getting megestrol acetate/OvaBan from some vet somewhere...

Luckily I have some FeralStat left, plus the non-estrus period is coming up for all of us.

I just wish we could find out SOMEONE we can talk to on getting more FeralStat.

I'm still looking for alternative source and possibly making it up ourselves. I'll keep posting what I find...you all do the same....

James
Bonnie
#32 Sep 29, 2011
I too am upset that I can no longer get fetalstat. No kittens and healthy cats. Hope it`s available SOON!
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James wrote:
To "KK-Mobile, AL"--a good vet should be able to make your kitty go out of heat by using the reliable "Q-Tip" or thermometer method. If your vet is a young one, he may not know about this. Professional cat breeders do this all the time to bring their cats out of heat. The method is best left up to the experienced as you can hurt the kitty if you go too deep. Check with your vet or try another. Also, maybe get a second opinion on having your cat spayed with the hernia problem.
The good thing is that the days are getting shorter--the less daylight, the less a cat will go into heat.
Also, it is NOT good for a kitty to constantly be in and out of heat and NOT be bred. You are taking a risk either way you go by letting the kitty go in and out of heat and not bred or by not choosing the spay. I myself would get a 2nd opinion on the spay.
As for vets not knowing about FeralStat--that is understandable, BUT they should know about megestrol acetate as well as "OvaBan"--especially if they are "old school vets".
Again, the main ingredient in FeralStat is just megestrol acetate. The other ingredient was powdered milk/lactose for taste purposes only.
Professional cat breeders have been using megestrol acetate for years to control heats. Check your yellow pages for cat fancy breeders and see if they have insight on a vet that can prescribe megestrol acetate in your area. Be sure and check out other online forums devoted to show cats and cat fancy sites. These breeders are indeed getting megestrol acetate/OvaBan from some vet somewhere...
Luckily I have some FeralStat left, plus the non-estrus period is coming up for all of us.
I just wish we could find out SOMEONE we can talk to on getting more FeralStat.
I'm still looking for alternative source and possibly making it up ourselves. I'll keep posting what I find...you all do the same....
James
Hi, James.

Let me first say that I've had two opinions already - well, three if I include another vet at the same hospital as the last one I went to last week. The first vet said absolutely not, no way, and I would be hard pressed to find anyone to spay her at all. This new office tells me he would only suggest doing it while going in for the hernia surgery - if everything is going good, then he would go ahead and spay her then. See, my problem is that I can't get her spayed without having the surgery first. And if I have the surgery, I'm taking a huge risk of losing her. The new vet tells me that many cats live long lives, as an inside kitty, with Emma's condition and we should keep a close eye out and take it as it comes for now. So it's darned if I and darned if I don't. I've never been put in this situation before, and it's just killing me. I don't want to lose her, and I want to give her every chance at a long and happy life. What would you do?

The first vet I took her to said to use the very end of a pencil eraser and just gently tap the end of it to her back side and sometimes it will fool them into thinking they've done the deed. The second vet used the Q-tip method, and neither one of them worked! Woudln't you know it... no fooling this one. So that's a concern of mine too, that it hasn't worked yet and what will I do without the FeralStat!

I am to take her back in a couple weeks for shots, and I'll ask him about the ingredients and see if he has any idea where I may can get it. In the mean time, I'll do some research to see if I can find some local breeders in the area. I appreciate your suggestion on that.

Yes, please let us know what you find out on the megestrol acetate. If I find anything out, I'll be sure and post back as well.

By the way, no one from FeralStat has returned by call yet. Why am I not surprised! Oh, I wish we could find something out.

Thanks again, James.:-)

KK
James
United States
#34 Oct 6, 2011
Wow...you are in between a rock & a hard place with your kitty...I feel for you! I just with a local vet and they can get a 100 count bottle of OvaBan for about $25.00 in tablets.....considerably cheaper than FeralStat! The OvaBan tablets main ingredient is megestrol acetate--same as FeralStat...

Many show cat breeders use OvaBan to control heat in their kitties.

KK, I've never heard of tapping a pencil eraser on back of a cat, but I have heard of acupressure to bring a kitty out of heat...I ofund this on Net:

Acupressure To Bring
Your Female Out Of Season

Acupressure is the simple application of pressure on specific points on the body. These "pressure points" are the same as those incorporated in the practice of acupuncture. Acupressure differs from acupuncture in that it does not involve the use of needles.

The Technique

Acupressure can be used to bring a female out of heat. The technique is easy to learn and apply.

* Scruff the queen firmly on the back of the neck with one hand. Most queens in season will then assume the breeding position.
* With your other hand, stroke down her back and tap lightly along her flanks, mimicking the actions of a breeding male.
* Tickle her at the base of her tail until she is treading and obviously receptive.
* With your thumb and forefinger, feel for the depression each side side of the tail. They will be between the base of the tail and the bony protrusions or knob on each side of the tail.
* At the same time, press firmly with your thumb and index finger in each of the two depressions.
* The pressure should be firm enough to make the queen voice the characteristic growl of breeding.
* Press for at least 10 seconds, then release.
* If you have been successful, the queen will growl, scream and when you let her go she will roll as if mated.
* Repeat this 2 or 3 times in the first hour and then another 4 or 5 times over the next 24 hours.
* Repeat twice a day for 3 days.

Success Rate

Acupressure for a cycling female works well for some cats and not at all for others.

If it is going to work, the female will be out of season in 2 or 3 days and will not cycle again for 6-8 weeks.

Risks

Don't forget that the hormonal changes caused by ovulation can increase the risk of fertility problems or of the queen developing pyometra. Individual queens vary in how susceptible they are to these hormonal changes and the effects may be cumulative, so be aware that any technique used to delay breeding comes with risks.

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As for the Q-tip method tried by your vet, you did good by letting your vet try it as Q-tip method is invasive and penetrative and best left up to experts.

Check with your vet to see if he/she can get you a scrip to OvaBan. Some vets are not familiar with use of Ovaban and dosage of it, etc....post back if you need me to send you dosage info.

Good luck with your kitty...I feel for you and your baby...

James
Raini
Thunder Bay, Canada
#35 Oct 11, 2011
Yes, I too am in ire straits, after giving Feralstat to a feral colony of 24 cats, I had results. The colony is now only 14. This was successful within the year, since January. How do I reach Dr. Heller or another compassionate associate. I cannot forsee the colony expanding again with winter setting in. There has been no new litters. Could some individual vet or association please help.
Email me at mononenraini@hotmail.com.
Thank you.
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James wrote:
Wow...you are in between a rock & a hard place with your kitty...I feel for you! I just with a local vet and they can get a 100 count bottle of OvaBan for about $25.00 in tablets.....considerably cheaper than FeralStat! The OvaBan tablets main ingredient is megestrol acetate--same as FeralStat...
Check with your vet to see if he/she can get you a scrip to OvaBan. Some vets are not familiar with use of Ovaban and dosage of it, etc....post back if you need me to send you dosage info.
Good luck with your kitty...I feel for you and your baby...
James
James, yes, I really am in a bad place with Emma. I hope and pray that her vet will know of OvaBan and can get some for me. I would love to know the dosage for keeping her out of heat, though, as I need to save as much time as possible, just in case he's not aware of it. So thank you so much. And thank you for posting the acupuncture technique. If all else fails, I may have to try it, but I don't look forward to it at all. I'm not good at this kind of thing and I fear of hurting her for lack of confidence. So nice of you to find it for me!!!

Still no news from FeralStat. You would think somebody would make some sort of statement out here in their world of supporters, wouldn't you? I can't wrap my head around why there's no word at all knowing there's tons of us who are in need for our little fur babies! A big disappointment indeed.

But if you can forward the dosage info for me, that'd be great. I'll post back when I visit her vet again, probably next week sometime. Thanks again so much for your help and concern!

KK
Judy
#37 Oct 14, 2011
There isn't anything I can add that hasn't already been said. I am devastated at the thought of going back to 30 new kittens twice a year. I've used FeralStat going on 3 years...and not one kitten. It has given me time to TNR, but new cats keep coming into the colony and FeralStat was my savior. I am having a hard time figuring out how something that works so well can no longer be provided. Tell me more about OvaBan. Is it a pill or a sprinkle on? As you know pills won't work with ferals. I tried contacting my vet, but they were aghast that I would use Feralstat. I must find something to help control my colony. I lose some to coyotes and/or fox, but otherwise very healthy! Please Feralstat...we need you!
dmkakers
#38 Oct 14, 2011
Hi, I live in California. My Mom age 81, has been using Feralstat for the last 6 mo. Two weeks ago she started calling her pharmacy to get the next batch of Feralstat. Well the pharmacy does not answer her calls and the Vet. she used to get the prescribtion to get the Feralstat is not answering either. She needs to reup asap. Can you give me the Vet you are using and the pharmacy number? She can then have it shipped to her. I have also been looking on the internet, and your the first person replying on the sights thats in the year 2011. Thats why I'm trying to get a hold of you. Can you help us please? Hope to hear from you soon. Here is my e-mail address. dmkakers@hotmail.com In case I lose you on this sight. Thank You Dorothy McDonald>
leslie leavitt wrote:
I have used FeralStat on a feral colony for about 2 and a half years. Have not had one kitten born in that time. The cats appear to be healthy. I will continue to use it despite negative comments. The life of a feral is hard at best. They are already subject to all kinds of illnesses and diseases and while the thought of adding to their troubles with FeralStat is not my intention I will continue to use it. Preventing feral kittens from being born is my goal at this time. I have tried many times to trap these cats but they are very trap wary.
James
United States
#39 Oct 14, 2011
OvaBan comes in a pill form. A small portion of the pill is usually crushed up & placed in food. Generally, cat breeders use 2.5 mg ONCE A WEEK. Some breeders use as little as 1.25 mg every 3 weeks....others have found that OvaBan can be dosed a little farther apart in the winter than in the summer.

My vet can get me 100 OvaBan tablets for about $25.00--this is a LOT cheaper than FeralStat. You are only using a portion of ONE single OvaBan tablet per dosage every week or so as stated above.

Ladies, you are going to have to use GOOGLE to research OvaBan and ASK YOUR VET for a prescription. You can probably forget FeralStat for the time being.

THE ONLY ALTERNATIVE TO FERALSTAT IS OVABAN! You will have to find a vet that knows about OvaBan and will prescribe it to you--plain and simple.

As I have already stated, OvaBan is used by professional show cat breeders in the cat fancy world to control heats in their cats. For those of you in large cities, look for cat fancy/show breeders--get your phone books out & call your vets to see if they will prescribe you OvaBan.

As I said, this is the ONLY alternative to FeralStat for the time being until FeralStat decides to come back--which I highly doubt.

Check with "CAT ONLY" veterinarians if need be for OvaBan--most all of your current "all purpose horse,cow, dog,cat vets" are probably NOT going to know about OvaBan.

You have the whole world at your fingertips as far as information and research is concerned--use GOOGLE. Google is your friend..google "OvaBan" and read, read, read, read....

Hope this helps...

James
James
United States
#40 Oct 14, 2011
Also, check out fancy/show cat forums for OvaBan usage. If you have exotic cat breeders in your town, call them up and ask them if they perhaps have a prescription to OvaBan and maybe they can "give" you a few pills or maybe they can turn you on to the veterinarian that will prescribe it for you. OvaBan is not just used for heat control--it is given by many vets for behavioral problems such as spraying/marking...

Look in your phone books and start calling all vets--sooner or later you will find a vet that will prescribe OvaBan.
James
#43 Oct 15, 2011
Ok Ladies, I may have found a solution to our problem! After 100's of hours researching & using Google, I've found a Non-profit Foundation that prescribes OvaBan/MegAce. MegAce is human equivalent of megestrol acetate.

It seems as if I've found the same formula as FeralStat itself!

I KNEW I could find a DIY for us to make our own FeralStat if I kept digging.

The website is:(scroll to bottom half of page)
http://www.fairchildcat.org/rich_text_1.html

Not sure if they mail order--if any of you call them up, please post your results here for all of us to share.

Here is the formula they list. I hope I have helped you all out...now that we seem to have an alternative to FeralStat, it should be easy to get MegAce/OvaBan from our vets & mix our own & save $.

Here's the info:

Ovaban is utilized as an oral contraceptive to reduce the number of litters born into a colony
while the cats are being humane trapped and neutered. The dosages indicated below are low enough to be safe but effective based on previous studies. We have had great success in preventing HUNDREDS of Pregnancies in the past 10 years, thus reducing the unwanted cat overpopulation BY MILLIONS!

NEVER give more medication than is directed. Human Megace (40 mg/ml) is diluted down to 5 mg per ml with distilled water--this suspension is used instead of crushing the name-brand Ovaban tablets (1 tablet = 1 ml).

It is very important that you continually evaluate the size of your colony and insure that you are using the correct dosage and frequency for the size of your colony.



Total Number of Cats in the Colony - Dosage per colony / Frequency

< 5 cats .5 ml ONCE a week
5-7 cats 1.0 ml ONCE a week
8-11 cats 1.5 ml ONCE a week
12-15 cats 1.0 ml TWICE A WEEK
16-19 cats 1.5 ml TWICE A WEEK
20-23 cats 1.6 ml TWICE A WEEK
24-27 cats 2.0 ml TWICE A WEEK
28-31 cats 2.2 ml TWICE A WEEK
32-35 cats 2.5 ml TWICE A WEEK
36-39 cats 2.8 ml TWICE A WEEK
40 + cats 3.0 ml TWICE A WEEK
NOTE: For the 3cc syringe each line is 0.1 ml whereas on the 6cc syringe each line is 0.2 ml

1) This medication MUST be mixed in CANNED cat food and served on multiple plates or dishes (NO PAPER). Use one 5.5 oz can of cat food for every 3 cats in your colony. It is very important to spread it out on as many plates as possible so the entire colony is being medicated as evenly as possible.

2)Shake the bottle of medication vigorously as the ovaban settles to the bottom. It is very important that the ovaban is mixed thoroughly before dosing to avoid under/overdose.Divide the appropriate dose of medication for your colony evenly among the plates of food and mix it thoroughly into each plate of food.

3)DO NOT DISPENSE IN MILK OR MILK PRODUCTS!

4)Store medication with bottle tightly capped in a cool, dry place away from sunlight.

5)Wash syringe with dish soap and water. Rinse thoroughly. Allow syringe to air dry on a paper towel.

6)DO NOT SKIP OR MISS A DOSE!If you were unable to dose the cats on your scheduled day, do so on the very next day and resume your schedule the following week. For colonies that require a frequency of 2 x per week, the dosages MUST be spaced out.
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J STONE
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#1 Jul 29, 2008
Birth control pills for animals encluding a permanate pill to add to street cats food is available and in usage quite successful in progressine countries, In the USA special intrest is feeding the fools the crap that more testing and all the other bull and have been doing this for 50 years because of special intrest. This must be put into the hands of the people now for real progress to the age old problem.
mowgli
#2 Aug 29, 2008
thank-you
catlady in stl
Saint Louis, MO
#3 Jun 21, 2009
Seriously what aother alternatives are there when you cannot trap the source of the multiple litters of kittens in a feral colony? I'm sorry these people ACCD feel threatened and from what I've read are trying to develop their own feline contraceptive, but what about the average joe like me that feeds and takes care of these strays and is just beyond done with it?

Everytime I trap kittens I can't get any help from the rescues in my area, my friends and neighbors are done they've taken way too many of these kittens. I am going to have to have faith that the risks of the Feralstat aren't as great as allowing the non-stop kitten factory to continue.

I feed all of these ferals out of my own pocket and I take care of them the best I can but enough is emough. I'll post back to let everyone know if this product works or not.
Jane in PA
#4 Oct 10, 2009
In the busy spring and summer months, one is able to get very little help from the cat rescue groups. I was told by several friends to try a well-known county group for help with TNR, since I didn't know where to start, had tons of questions, and didn't know what was out there to help me.

I couldn't get anyone to call back. In fact, one of the answering machine messages said, "If you've called before and have already left a message, please don't leave another one!" I was distraught, to say the least!

I realized I was mostly on my own for learning how to trap and release my ferals. One trained rescuer (whom I found online), recommended a couple veterinarians who offer discounts, which was very valuable information to me.

I have successfully trapped several cats and kittens now (whew!)- but at one time was considering birth control, because I had no other choice.

People who try this method are desperate for a solution, because there is so little information out there as to what to do. Often it is seen as an interimsolution. I am worried about some of the reported side effects, but perhaps it's OK if the product is only used short-term, until the cat can be caught and safely neutered.
leslie leavitt
#5 Apr 17, 2011
I have used FeralStat on a feral colony for about 2 and a half years. Have not had one kitten born in that time. The cats appear to be healthy. I will continue to use it despite negative comments. The life of a feral is hard at best. They are already subject to all kinds of illnesses and diseases and while the thought of adding to their troubles with FeralStat is not my intention I will continue to use it. Preventing feral kittens from being born is my goal at this time. I have tried many times to trap these cats but they are very trap wary.
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#6 Jul 15, 2011
Did the FeralStat work? I am faced with the same problem as you.
catlady in stl wrote:
Seriously what aother alternatives are there when you cannot trap the source of the multiple litters of kittens in a feral colony? I'm sorry these people ACCD feel threatened and from what I've read are trying to develop their own feline contraceptive, but what about the average joe like me that feeds and takes care of these strays and is just beyond done with it?
Everytime I trap kittens I can't get any help from the rescues in my area, my friends and neighbors are done they've taken way too many of these kittens. I am going to have to have faith that the risks of the Feralstat aren't as great as allowing the non-stop kitten factory to continue.
I feed all of these ferals out of my own pocket and I take care of them the best I can but enough is emough. I'll post back to let everyone know if this product works or not.
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kcook924
#7 Jul 15, 2011
Did the FeralStat work? I am faced with the same problem as many out there are.
kcook924
#8 Jul 15, 2011
Did the FeralStat work?

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leslie leavitt
#9 Jul 31, 2011
For whoever judged me clueless, be sure and let me know when you come up with a better alternative. Since you are so smart, I;m sure it will be soon
Bajapamella
United States
#10 Aug 5, 2011
I just tried to contact feralstat to order a prescription for my feral colony. I got a message that they are no longer renewing nor filling orders and to call back on August 15th for an update. Does anyone know what is going on or soemone else I can contact for birth control for my cat colony. I'm desperate to stop them from reproducing.
Gail from Hilltop Humane
#11 Aug 6, 2011
Search the info on the Web about feralstat and you can find the name of thegeneric drug. If you have a vet that you work with frequently, you may be able to get a prescription for that. It should be a lot cheaper anyway. I'm sorry, I just moved and I can't find the pages I printed off previously with the name. The people who make a fuss about possible side effects of the drug are ignoring the "side effects" of repeated pregnancies on these poor feral moms. I'm talking with the President of our organization about doing a trial. We've been swamped with kittens this year like everyone else and donations are down. If you get the generic, let us know how it works.
Bajapamella wrote:
I just tried to contact feralstat to order a prescription for my feral colony. I got a message that they are no longer renewing nor filling orders and to call back on August 15th for an update. Does anyone know what is going on or soemone else I can contact for birth control for my cat colony. I'm desperate to stop them from reproducing.
Bea Sturges
West Bloomfield, MI
#12 Aug 19, 2011
I called today for a refill of feralstat and couldn't get an answer today. Does anybody know what is going on?
Bea Sturges
West Bloomfield, MI
#13 Aug 19, 2011
Feralstat works great. But why can't I get a refill now?
Bajapamella
United States
#14 Aug 19, 2011
Bea Sturges wrote:
Feralstat works great. But why can't I get a refill now?
. I keep trying feral stat but no answer. Please let us know if you find another source or are able to refill. Ive been trying for over a month and am so disappointed.
Deborah
#15 Aug 27, 2011
kcook924 wrote:
Did the FeralStat work? I am faced with the same problem as many out there are.
I used feralstat for the last couple of years. I think it works great. No new kittens & the cats look healthy. But am having a hard time getting it this time. I have one pack of feralstat left, but when I called to get more a recording told me that the office was closed & that they were not taking any orders for refills or new prescriptions. And to try back in a couple of weeks. but I need more now. Don't know what to do now.
ginger
#16 Aug 31, 2011
I have used feral stat for 2 years. No new kittens and the cats look healthy. I can't take care of any more. I am getting the same message. Now no answer. I'm desperate and need it now. What is going on? Please let me know if you find a place to get it.
julie
#17 Sep 7, 2011
It's Sept 8, 2011. I have one week of Feral Stat left and I have 60 cats on it. Can you imagine what can happen with that many once it is used up? I must find out what's going on, so is there any updates?

Also, when folks talk about side effects....read carefully, there are none to speak of. It states these things can happen in LARGE doses. Also, how does one supposed "expert" really know. Heck, vet "experts" do not even know about the miracle cure apple cider vinegar for cats and even newborn kittens.

I have used Feral Stat since 2009 with no problems and no kittens. jaws6418@gmail.com
ginger
#18 Sep 8, 2011
Gail from Hilltop Humane wrote:
Search the info on the Web about feralstat and you can find the name of the generic drug. If you have a vet that you work with frequently, you may be able to get a prescription for that. It should be a lot cheaper anyway. I'm sorry, I just moved and I can't find the pages I printed off previously with the name. The people who make a fuss about possible side effects of the drug are ignoring the "side effects" of repeated pregnancies on these poor feral moms. I'm talking with the President of our organization about doing a trial. We've been swamped with kittens this year like everyone else and donations are down. If you get the generic, let us know how it works.
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Did you happen to remember the name of the generic drug. I don't know if I could find a vet to get it from. They all say they have never heard of Feralstat.
Kathryn
#19 Sep 11, 2011
I have been using feral stat for almost a year now - I have about a 2 months supply left so I must have been able to renew just before they stopped refilling prescriptions. This is devastating news! The cats in my colony are all healthy - and no kittens. I am doing tnr all on my own and was down to one female last summer who I was having difficulty catchin - and she had 6 kittens! So now I am back up. I only have access to a spay neuter clinic once a month and since the only place I can allow the cat to recuperate is a garage, that means that the middle of winter and middle of summer are out because of the extreme temperatures. Feralstat has been a life safer! There must be something we can do to get this product back into availability. The possible side effects from this drug are no where near the definite side effects of too many kittens dying horrible deaths through starvation, predation (11 died here the year before - 5 by drowning in a flooded stream; 4 torn apart by some wild animal; 1 hit by a car; and 1 killed by a wild animal, and the nuisance problems caused with neighbours from fighting and spraying. That has all stopped while they are on feralstat. I have rescued as many as I can, found homes for as many as I can and with feralstat finally had a chance to get caught up on the neutering of the ones remaining. I have found none of the feral cat organizations willing to give me any sort of practical hands on help - just refer me to their literature. And if they are responsible for feralstat being off the market that is another black mark to their discredit. It seems like they have forgotten what it is like to be the lone caregiver on the ground dealing with the practical day to day realities. I can't believe their hypocrisy! I hope, hope, hope that the vet who was willing to actually do something to help will see this and return to practice. I'm no longer making a donation to Alley Cat Allies since they seem to be one of the most vocal against this use. They have obviously lost touch with reality - no practical help, no resources for the little guy and now removing one of the only resources we have to give us a chance to gain control of our colonies.
Kathryn
#20 Sep 11, 2011
megestrol acetate - that is the name of the product in feralstat.
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